
During a heated hearing before the House Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Pam Bondi and Congressman Ted Lieu got into a sharp and emotional exchange over allegations connected to Donald Trump and the case files related to Jeffrey Epstein. The confrontation quickly became one of the most intense moments of the hearing.
Lieu questioned Bondi about whether she had been fully honest under oath when discussing evidence tied to Trump in the Epstein investigation. He stated that Trump’s name appears repeatedly throughout the Epstein files and suggested that this raised serious concerns. Lieu pressed Bondi with a direct question about whether any underage girls had been present at parties attended by both Trump and Epstein. His line of questioning focused on whether proper investigations had been carried out and whether any powerful individuals had been shielded from scrutiny.
Bondi reacted strongly. She dismissed the claims as ridiculous and accused critics of trying to distract from what she described as the positive accomplishments of Trump. She firmly stated that there was no evidence that Trump had committed any crime and insisted that this was widely understood. Her tone was defensive and forceful, making it clear that she felt the accusations were politically motivated.
Lieu responded by pointing out that she had just declared there was no evidence at all. He then introduced what he described as an FBI report containing serious allegations. According to Lieu, the report included a witness statement from a man who said he had driven Trump in a limousine. The witness allegedly claimed to have overheard a phone conversation between Trump and Epstein and later met a young woman who said she had been raped by both men. Lieu argued that such information could not simply be dismissed and deserved immediate investigation.
He directly accused Bondi of lying under oath, saying that claiming there was “no evidence” was misleading in light of the report he was presenting. Bondi reacted angrily, telling Lieu not to accuse her of committing a crime. The exchange grew louder and more confrontational as both stood firm in their positions.
Lieu continued by saying that if the Justice Department had any commitment to fairness, it would immediately interview the witness and follow up on the allegations. He spoke passionately about the broader issue of sex trafficking and the many victims connected to Epstein’s criminal network. He stated that more than a thousand victims had been identified and criticized what he described as a failure to hold powerful men accountable. He said Epstein deserved to “rot in hell,” and argued that any men who supported or took part in his operations should face serious consequences as well.
In closing, Lieu told Bondi that if she had any sense of decency, she would resign after the hearing. The exchange highlighted deep political divisions and reflected ongoing controversy over how the Epstein case has been handled and whether all potential leads and allegations have been thoroughly investigated.



